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May 4Liked by Eric Topol

Nice interview with Dr. Iwasaki. The nasal Neosporin idea is fascinating, but I’ve seen concerns about the potential for lipoid pneumonia with Neosporin as the vehicle for nasal neomycin. Thoughts?

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Right. It’s not ready yet to recommend

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The intranasal vaccine? Didn't you read the study that talks about how effective graphene oxide sprayed through the nose is to go directly to the brain?

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May 4Liked by Eric Topol

Thank you for this fascinating interview with Dr Iwasaki. You covered a lot of her and others’ interesting and promising lines of research, and I was also impressed with her advocacy work on parity for women in science. Both of you are true gems.

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Thanks very much!

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May 4Liked by Eric Topol

This had so much helpful information about such important topics, and things I have been wondering about! Thank you so much for asking these questions… I will look into how to support Professor Iwasaki’s work. Much admiration to you both for the hard and critical work you’re doing!

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Thanks Adrian

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May 5Liked by Eric Topol

"Long Covid is not one disease. It's a collection of multiple diseases and that are sort of ending up in similar sets of symptoms. Obviously, there are over 200 symptoms and not everyone has the same set of symptoms, but what we are going for is trying to understand the disease drivers," says Iwasaki. 📢🙏🏻

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Long covid are the effects on the body of a toxic agent such as graphene, which amplifies the damage caused by microwaves from antennas. It's all in the scientific literature

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Eric, the depth and breadth of your visitors and subjects continues to amaze me. I monitor your substack and podcasts..

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thanks!

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May 4Liked by Eric Topol

Another exciting Podcast, thanks again to Dr. Topol's insights being shared so beautifully with Professor Iwasaki as a real honor for us all to learn from, especially during such momentous discovery's from the likes of Dr. Iwasaki and so many others!

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Much appreciated

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May 4Liked by Eric Topol

Fascinating interview, covering a wide range of important topics! As the mysteries of aging are upon me, I was of course particularly interested in that segment, as in your question, “And as we get older, we get vulnerable to not just infections, but everything going wrong, whether it's the walls of our arteries or whether it's the cancer or the immunity that's going on in our brain for Alzheimer's and neurodegenerative diseases. How can we fix the immune system so that we age more healthily?”

I absolutely loved Dr. Iwasaki’s response—she pulls no punches, starting with this: “Oh yeah. A lot of billionaires are also interested in that question and are pouring money into this question.” More seriously, I really appreciated her long view—it explained so much about where we are in this present moment: “It's interesting, but when you think about the sort of evolutionary perspective, we humans are only living so long. In the very recent decades, our life expectancy used to be much shorter and all we had to survive was to reproduce and generate the next progeny. But nowadays, because of this amazing wealth and health interventions and food and everything else, we're just living so much longer than even our grandparents. The immune system didn't evolve to deal with such one to begin with. So we were doing fine living up to 30 years of age or whatever. But now that we're living up to a hundred years, the immune system isn't really designed to keep up with this kind of stressors.”

I was also left asking myself, why on earth have I not heard about Dr. Iwasaki, who is clearly delving into so many important health—and equity—issues? Well, Dr. Topol to the rescue, which is a perfect example of why Time has noted you as a member of this year’s Time100 Health: https://time.com/6967165/eric-topol/

Congratulations, Dr. Topol, and well-earned!

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Always great to get your notes, Susan. Thanks!

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May 4Liked by Eric Topol

Thanks for this. Fascinating read. So much work and research happening so fast. Hopefully the funding is there to secure ongoing progress and develop research results for Covid (& unfolding pandemics) universal medicinal triage.

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Hope so! Thank you

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Wonderful interview! I was struck most by three things:

1. Your point that the immune system is the most complex in the body.

2. Its involvement in so many conditions, from infection to malignancy. (Will we come to think of aging as a disease?)

3. Dr. Iwasaki’s caution about the need to be humble about what we understand.

But, despite the challenges, I’m glad she and her colleagues world-wide are trying and are making progress, which makes me hopeful.

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May 5Liked by Eric Topol

Great interview! 👍 wish you could explain the process by which a new treatment like nasal vaccines gets developed, approved, manufactured and distributed. We seem stuck. It would be helpful to see a template for the process to figure out where the impediments are. Once that is clearer, maybe we can navigate the path and better clear the obstacles.

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There are 2 nasal vaccine programs that are backed by the US Project NextGen and in clinical trials. If they succeed, manufacturing will be rapidly scaled up. I reviewed the topic here https://erictopol.substack.com/p/covid-nasal-vaccines-get-a-boost

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Yes, add more graphene. Have you ever heard how a company that sells graphene in Turkey was responsible for creating the intranasal vaccine for Covid?

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May 5Liked by Eric Topol

awesome

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May 15·edited May 15

Dr. Topol, how do you square what you and Dr. Iwasaki discuss in this interview-- and your combined knowledge of the dangers of COVID and reinfection with it-- with the fact that you both and Dr. Al-Aly appeared maskless this week at the awards dinner? Seeing all 3 of you maskless at an indoor event was a huge missed opportunity to model good public health behavior and be an advocate for those of us who are desperately trying to protect ourselves and our families in an environment of open hostility to public health and COVID prevention. I am extremely sad and disappointed.

If the last major holdouts on talking about the dangers of COVID have stopped publicly masking, do you all understand how pathologized the rest of us taking precautions become?

Also, if you all get Long COVID, who is going to continue this research? You're not just risking your own health, but also the hope of those who are looking to your expertise to find answers for their COVID-induced disability.

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I see a lot of lost people

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No mention of adverse effects of mRNA vaccines, long vax or vaccine oncogenesis?

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According to Canadian study and others, risk of long covid rises with each infection. It isn’t reduced as said here.

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Not with each infection, it is with each injection

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It relieves anxiety to blame a vaccine that can be easily avoided. But reality is that the virus needs to be avoided.

Vaccine injuries exist, but at much lower rates than viral injuries. Viruses hijack our cells to reproduce. Vaccines teach the immune system without damaging our cells.

I have 2 life altering viral injuries. One from EBV 20 years ago (no vaccine for that) and another from my only Covid infection in 2022.

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Well, I have never had covid, because I was never swabbed or inoculated with graphene.

I see you continue. When you prove that the virus exists, I will be able to believe you.

Didn't you know that years ago the covid vaccines were analyzed and they found no mRNA or spike? I did not know that? It seems like you live in another parallel reality. If there is no mRNA or anything biological to produce immunity, it means the virus is a hoax. There is only graphene, and if you look at the scientific literature you will see that it produces the same symptoms as covid.

If this does not awaken your scientific interest in research, you are completely asleep.

I insist again, look at a vaccine under a microscope and you will know the truth.

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So it takes a very high powered microscope to even view bacteria. mRNA is even smaller. If someone is claiming they can’t detect mRNA in a vaccine, it’s probably because they don’t have the right microscope. They’re too expensive.

Side note, there is no spike protein in an mRNA vaccine. That would only be in a protein based vaccine like Novavax.

Interestingly, the microscope problem is relevant to your concerns about graphene. Pfizer uses grapheme to test their batches for the presence of mRNA. They can’t even detect it with microscopes alone.

So the grapheme is being used to validate vaccine effectiveness, but it is not in the vaccine itself.

I’ll let you in on a secret, Biden said he would get rid of Covid, but really he did the same thing as Trump. He minimized and discouraged testing and masking. Why? Because we’re not good little consumers if we’re masking and avoiding large crowds.

Also corporate real estate prices were poised to crash if people didn’t go back to work. And airlines pressured the CDC to reduce quarantine times because too many people were sick to keep the planes running.

Better to let people get sick over and over because drugs are a lot more profitable than vaccines. In one meeting, Pfizer applauded the end of mask mandates because they knew it would increase Paxlovid sales.

Other drugs will be needed as well. For instance, Covid infections increase the risk of diabetes, especially in children. Insulin is a cash cow. Drug companies stand to gain, and we will lose.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2023/03/28/fact-check-document-shows-graphene-used-test-covid-19-vaccine-not-make/11556190002/

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Having a powerful microscope is what the False Dissidence has been saying all these years, when they said that graphene oxide could not be seen under a microscope. This shows that they are neither scientists nor people, since they are at the service of who pays them to lie, they are CRIMINALS.

From his comment I observe that he does not know anything about science. Trying to see mRNA with an optical microscope is absurd. I also note that you completely ignore everything related to graphene.

There have already been four doctors and scientists who demonstrated years ago that there is neither mRNA nor spike protein in the vaccines, since neither phosphorus nor nitrogen was found in the analyses. That means there is nothing biological about vaccines that produces immunity. It is the first thing they teach you in college, all life, bacteria or viruses, contain these elements.

Bacteria can be seen at 400x, as can graphene oxide. There are hundreds of scientists and laboratories that have analyzed the vials, finding this material that produces covid according to scientific literature. Among them is Dr. Campra, who was the first in the world to demonstrate that all vaccines contain graphene oxide, using the micro-Raman technique (I'm sure you don't know what I'm talking about) unequivocally evidencing the presence of this material. He left you the published study so that you can enlighten yourself a little:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/355979001_DETECTION_OF_GRAPHENE_IN_COVID19_VACCINES

Subsequently, hundreds of scientists and doctors have corroborated the same as Dr. Campra. Science, in case you don't know, works like this. Someone discovers something and then other scientists replicate the experiment to verify if it is correct. That's called peer review.

Pretending to believe what the official world says is simply being a sheep of the system.

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You’re clearly ego driven. If you were simply interested in the truth, you wouldn’t be trying to feel superior by calling people sheep. Such an unoriginal and inaccurate insult.

I say inaccurate because almost no one is making. Booster uptake was only 25% for eligible people this season. Technically, I am in the minority at this point. You’re defacto majority — regardless of your reasons

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Fantastic interview, fantastic questions and information and especially beautiful how mutually respectful both you scientists are of each other, not a trace of competition or professional jealousy.

I found out about this podcast/transcript from Dr. Mike Osterholm's recent Covid-19 Update podcast. He talks briefly about the article, raves about you, and urges his listeners to go to the link for this interview on the CIPRAP website.

Thank you profoundly!

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Fantastic interview, fantastic questions and information and especially beautiful how mutually respectful both you scientists are of each other, not a trace of competition or professional jealousy.

I found out about this podcast/transcript from Dr. Mike Osterholm's recent Covid-19 Update podcast. He talks briefly about the article, raves about you, and urges his listeners to go to the link for this interview on the CIPRAP website.

Thank you profoundly!

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